some verses from bible and quran

Verses from bible that are against the trinitarian belief:

Terminology of ‘’father and son’’ in bible:

İn many verses of bible, words of ‘’ father’’ and ‘’son’’ are used as ‘’master’’ and ‘’servant’’.In greek language  the word ‘’ Pais’’ has two meanings: son and servant. Here are some examples from bible:

Luke 3:38: (this verse is about the ascendants of jesus, at the end of the list): 38the [son] of Enos, the [son] of Seth, the [son] of Adam, the [son] of God.

Romans 8:14: For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

Matthew 5:9: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.

Psalm 2:7: I will tell of the decree:Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have I begotten thee.

John 8:41: Ye do the works of your father. They said unto him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God. 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I came forth and am come from God; for neither have I come of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [Even] because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Jeremiah 31:9: They shall come with weeping; and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by rivers of waters, in a straight way wherein they shall not stumble; for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first-born.

John 3 16:  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The Word begotten also used in ‘’Hebrews’’ like that:

Hebrews 11:17: By faith Abraham, being tried, offered up Isaac: yea, he that had gladly received the promises was offering up his only begotten [son]

As we can see, isaac is called abraham’s only begotten son. But other son of Abraham; ishmael; was older than isaac, so isaac cant be abraham’s only son. That means that begotten doesnt necessarily mean ‘’only son’’ in the terminology of bible. Also, we saw that on many verses of bible, god calls many people as ‘’his son’’ that means servant of him, not literal meaning.

Some verses of bible that are claimed by christian priests, to be the proofs that Jesus is god

1-The words ‘’father’’ and ‘’son’’. We saw that they cant be taken as literal meaning.

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JOHN 8 23: And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this World

But, on the gospel of john, there is also a verse like that:

john 17:14: I have given them thy word; and the world hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

John 15:19: If ye were of the world, the world would love its own: but because ye are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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john 10:30: I and the Father are one.

But these are also verses from john:

John 17 20: Neither for these only do I pray, but for them also that believe on me through their word; 21that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us: that the world may believe that thou didst send me. 22And the glory which thou hast given me I have given unto them; that they may be one, even as we [are] one; 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that thou didst send me, and lovedst them, even as thou lovedst me

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John 14:19: Yet a little while, and the world beholdeth me no more; but ye behold me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20In that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself unto him.

As answer to that, there is a verse like that:

John 14 20: In that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Corinthians 6:19: Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;

Ephesians 4:6: 4[There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as also ye were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all.

Luke 9:48: But when Jesus saw the reasoning of their heart, he took a little child, and set him by his side, 48and said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this little child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same is great

Let us give an example from the quran:

Surat an nisa 80: He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.

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Also, jesus’ unnatural born without a father, is also claimed to be the proof that he is the son of god and he himself is god. But if being born without a father, than Adam and Eve are also gods. But no one call them as ‘’gods’’

Lets see what quran says about the birth of jesus christ:

Surat of maryam(mary) 16-36:

And mention, [O Muhammad], in the Book [the story of] Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel, and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ." He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. She said, "Oh, I wish I had died before this and was in oblivion, forgotten." But he called her from below her, "Do not grieve; your Lord has provided beneath you a stream. And shake toward you the trunk of the palm tree; it will drop upon you ripe, fresh dates. So eat and drink and be contented. And if you see from among humanity anyone, say, 'Indeed, I have vowed to the Most Merciful abstention, so I will not speak today to [any] man.' " Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, "O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented. O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste." So she pointed to him. They said, "How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?" [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive. And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant. And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive." That is Jesus, the son of Mary - the word of truth about which they are in dispute. It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path."

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Another thing which is used to claim that Jesus is god, is that the miracles he has shown. But in the bible we can see that ezekiel also revived deads,  Elijah also revived a dead man,  Elisha also cure a man sick from lepra. These are all similiar to miracle shown by jesus, but these prophets are not claimed to be god…

Allah has not let jews to crucify jesus:

İn many verses of bible, jesus says that he has come to complete Torah. And he said his apostles to follow and obey the holy law in old testament. İn jewish laws, the thing which is hanged on a tree, on sabbath day, is considered damned and filthy.  That is why when jews crucify someone, they buried them and they considered the place that they bury them as damned.  This is why jews wanted to crucify jesus. Because they thought; if we succesfully crucify jesus, we will prove that jesus is not the messiah. Because messiah is a title. İt means ‘’the king of the jews’’. So how can the king of the jews be considered as damned and filthy according to jewish laws…they thought like that. And this is also the reason why Allah did not let them do it. 

Surat an nisa from the quran 156-158:

And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander,

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.

We muslims think that the who was crucified was either an angel which is send in the image of jesus, or Judas iscariot which was given the shape of jesus by Allah…

The concept of original sin:

İn islam, there is no concept of original sin. We believe that every baby that come to this World is pure. And every child is also free of sin until he/she comes to the age that he/she can understand the distinction of what is true and what is false. We also believe that no one inherit an other person’s sin. Every one is responsible for himself.

Lets see what quran says about adam and eve:

Surat ar araf: 19-25:

And "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat from wherever you will but do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers."

But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal."

And he swore [by Allah ] to them, "Indeed, I am to you from among the sincere advisors."

So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?"

They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."

[ Allah ] said, "Descend, being to one another enemies. And for you on the earth is a place of settlement and enjoyment for a time."

He said, "Therein you will live, and therein you will die, and from it you will be brought forth."

Surat al baqara from quran 30:

And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."

They said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise."

He said, "O Adam, inform them of their names." And when he had informed them of their names, He said, "Did I not tell you that I know the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth? And I know what you reveal and what you have concealed."

And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers.

And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers."

But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that [condition] in which they had been. And We said, "Go down, [all of you], as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time."

Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

We said, "Go down from it, all of you. And when guidance comes to you from Me, whoever follows My guidance - there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve.

  Earlier there was text here thay says God was not angry with adam and eve whwn they were sent to earth. Actually that was just an intetpretation of someone whom i have seen on video on youtube. IT was not definite knowldege  from quran.So i deleted that part. 

Some other verses from bible that are against the trinity:

John: 17Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.

Matthew 26-39: And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt

Matthew 26:42: Again a second time he went away, and prayed, saying, My Father, if this cannot pass away, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Matthew 24: 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only

Mark 10 17And as he was going forth into the way, there ran one to him, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good save one, [even] God.

Mark 12 28 And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all? 29Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one

John 5 30 I can of myself do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is righteous; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 14 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my words: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s who sent me.

Acts 2 22  Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know